By Pepper Parr
February 28th, 2025
BURLINGTON, ON
Here is how you feel when you win by 40 votes.
Natalie Pierre speaking to media.
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Winning by 40 votes: Is that a mandate?
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Sure, keep justifying the unjustifiable.
https://natseccandor.com/the-silence-of-good-people-is-the-death-of-democracy/
I voted for Natalie Pierre quite unashamedly. She’s my kind of politician in that I only see or hear about her when needed; I can function quite well on my own without the need to be constantly in her company.
Lynn,
I agree with most of what you say in your comment. Should Natalie Pierre have been at the debate at Port Nelson Church, in my opinion – ABSOLUTELY.
Should she have perhaps have held a PUBLIC FORUM since she chose not to participate in the debate – my opinion – ABSOLUTELY.
I cannot answer why she did not take some phone calls or answer some emails.
I just recently found out that an incumbent running for office is not allowed to go into their constituency office once an election has been called.
I will tell you that when a group of us were trying to and successfully had the ” Reviving Roots Conference cancelled at the Burlington Convention Centre I had emailed our MP Karina Gould asking for her help. I received an email 5 days AFTER we had been able to have this conference cancelled saying “the event had been cancelled”.
As for photo-ops – totally agree that most politicians rely on them to show their community what they have been doing. My opinion is the same as yours this is an ineffective way of interacting with residents.
Did Doug Ford do everything necessary to improve our Health System – NO? We have to remember that the problems with our health care system was decades in the making and involved other political parties as well.
Our housing shortage and less expensive rental rates has been attributed to the large increase in Canada taking in too many refugees at one time. Also the large number of foreign students who came to study in Canada. The Liberal Government has acknowledged this and has made changes in policy regarding these 2 issues alone.
No one party is going to please everyone.
People should be voting for the party not necessarily for the person running for election ( this should not be a popularity contest).
Many people in Ontario felt that the Liberal party have let them down.
What is done at the Federal level impacts us at the Provincial level.
In another article, the publisher writes … “[Hutton] is of the view that if Andrea Grebenc does lose when the Official count is in – she should consider running again.
Hutton has never talked to Natalie Pierre “she was never very outspoken. If she really doesn’t want to do the job – maybe she will resign and Ford will have to call a by-election.’”
Hutton is convinced that if ranked balloting had been used instead of first past the post this would have been a much different provincial election.”
We are in serious need of both electoral and party reform. But, given the existing electoral system and the fact that political parties of centre left split the vote, there is a need for a more strategic approach.
Mr. Hutton, if you were serious about stopping a Tory majority, then you could have withdrawn from the election and thrown your support behind Ms. Grebenc. You had absolutely no chance of winning and the votes that you garnered could have secured a Liberal win.
“Maybe she [Pierre] will resign and Ford will have to call a by-election.’” – when pigs fly sir, when pigs fly!
Ashamed to see anyone supporting a Trump supporter, ashamed to be an Ontarian. To believe that Ford called an election to “deal with Trump tariffs” is laughable. After yesterday’s horrifically repugnant display by Trump and his cabal towards Zelensky in the Oval Office, nobody should ever be supporting anyone who isn’t screaming from the rafters against it. This was true before yesterday too, for the record, but my God!
Yet our right-wing “leaders” are eerily quiet every bloody time they should be railing. And when they’re not quiet, they’re actually praising Trump. It’s sick. Trump is clearly working for Russia, not America and certainly not any democratic country. At some point people need to figure out what side they’re on. But oh, do wait until you see it impacting your own wallet.
I’m still shaking my head of how a MPP who did nothing for Burlington gets voted in again? For those that voted her in again I hope you enjoy her photo ops.
I want a recount. Reminds me of the time Oakville mayor Ann Mulvale squeaked in by 43 votes. At the same time, one of the papers printed a ballot box had gone missing.
Shame on Burlington for failing to see that representing us should be a job for a person who really wants and deserves this critical job. We have elected an MP and paying her salary while esponsibility and accountability fall by the wayside.
Here’s betting this goes to a judicial recount.
The most interesting part of the result is the voter turnout at over 53%. That is much higher than in other Oakville, Milton, Hamilton or Niagara ridings. What does it say when an incumbent PC MPP wins by just 40 votes in a traditionally solid PC riding, but a political neophyte like Monica Ciriello wins by a 6% margin in a traditionally NDP riding like Hamilton Mountain in a tight three way race?
Only NDP riding in Hamilton & Niagara to be flipped after almost 30yrs NDP dominance. This should be examined to find out why?
Thankful this is over and a decisive win for the policies of Conservatives.
Now we can turn off the screech of Stiles and the useless ramblings of Crombie who will now fade off the provincial political scene.
I would hardly call Stiles’ voice/delivery a screech. It sounds absolutely okay to me.
Same here. Pretty sick of such sexist comments.
Is winning by 40 votes a mandate? A very good question.
Would it have been a mandate if Andrea Grebenc had won by 40 votes?
Of course it’s not a mandate. “But what about if it was the other guy?” isn’t an answer – it’s a deflection of the question.
But ok, I’ll play that game: what if it was Grebenc, not Pierre, who didn’t show up for the debates and her party leader told all candidates not to? What if she won’t answer phone calls or emails? I’m guessing you would have said that wasn’t acceptable and that you couldn’t vote for that especially as you touted municipal debates many times – you wouldn’t have said “well she can choose to run her campaign her way” and then voted for her anyway. This whole early and expensive election was a farce.
Democracy is dying and we keep making excuses as it’s slowly chipped away.
Agree Eric does the Publisher want us to have a representative whose leader says she will continue to be leader regardless of her losing g her seat. This election was called to give Ford a mandate to deal with Trump during his term of office. It also means we will have a municipal election next year that does not have to compete with the provincial one which could improve turn out.
I think the conservative party could have run Mr. Ed in this riding, dead or alive, and had a similar result. In terms of the mandate, right or wrong, across the province and based on our first past the post system, Ford received his mandate.
Your first sentence seems true – and that is a shameful fact which says a lot about Burlington voters – none of it good. Makes me seriously need to ponder what the hell the point is of working to try to inform voters here about municipal politics, or anything at all. Voters don’t want to be informed.
“I think the conservative party could have run Mr. Ed in this riding, dead or alive, and had a similar result.”
They did and they did.