Ward six residents take part in a debate - was there a winner? There is certainly a choice.

council 100x100By Walter Byj

September 27, 2014

BURLINGTON, ON.

 

On Wednesday night the Burlington Gazette held its first all municipal candidates’ debate; it was held in ward six where there will be a total of 10 candidates on the ballot. Two of the ten were absent while one left shortly after the beginning.

Joan Little, a Hamilton Spectator columnist and Kurt Koster, a north Burlington resident and one of the founders of BurlingtonGreen wrote the questions that were put to the panelists.

On the stage were: Angelo Bentivegna, Jim Curran, Pardeep Dosanjh, Jennifer Hlusko, Blair Lancaster, Jivan Sanghera, Ishare Thiara who left early due to illness and Vanessa Warren.

There were about 120 people ence was approximately 100 with many, but not all, being cheerleaders’ for their candidate. Not sure how many minds where changed during the debate.

Debate Bentivegna-Curran -DosanjhAfter opening remarks from the candidates the panelists questioned the candidates on a number of topics allowing each candidate time to response. Unfortunately with the large number of candidates and the limited amount of time, it was difficult to always get detailed responses.

That notwithstanding, the questions and responses did offer an insight into not only the candidates, but why they were running and what their goals would be. Though not a Toronto style debate with name calling and heckling, there were a few zingers thrown.

Why each of the candidates was running was quite apparent throughout the evening, they were not happy with the current councillor. Not returning phone calls or responding to the needs of residents was a major complaint of Lancaster. However, she did respond by pointing to her long list of accomplishments as shown on her brochure and the fact that when addressing issues, one needs finesse and careful negotiations.

The candidates were asked if they would be full time councillors. Most definitely was the response back. They felt that being a councillor was a full time job and that they would treat it as such by being available 24/7. Jennifer Hlusko said the $120,000 Councillors are paid (they are actually paid under $100,000 – half of which comes from the Region and half from the city. They also get pension contributions and health benefits from the city) was far more than she earned as a trustee and she treats that job as full time.

Debate Bentivegna and Sanghera

Angelo Bentivegna chats with Jivan Sanghera after the debate.

Should a Councillor accept political donations and if so, from whom? Recognising that money is essential to run a campaign some stated that there was a difference accepting money from friends and relatives and from developers. Each candidate had a different response to this question.

Hlusko said she has never accepted money in the past and only recently accepted one donation which she says will be her last. Bentivegna, Curran, Dosanjh and Warren have accepted donations from friends and relatives but stressed not from developers. It could be a conflict if the developer addresses council. Sanghera stated he would not accept donations but would rather people donate to the flood relief fund. Only Lancaster had a slightly different approach. She felt that a donation of $750 (which is the maximum that one can donate) is not that great of an amount and would not sway a Councillors opinion. Anyone can donate to a campaign, she said and that developers are important and that we must respect people that donate.

In discussing ward 6, Angelo Bentivegna felt that it was comprised of four distinct areas, Headon Forest, Millcroft, Alton and rural Burlington with each having their particular needs. He felt that the Alton community felt isolated and should be brought into Burlington. Resident Fareem Samji (current Canadian Women’s Long Drive Champion) asked the Councillors how this could be done. This resulted in a variety of answers. Jennifer Hlusko reaches her community via blogs and twitter on a daily basis.

Jim Curran feels that the community is isolated from city hall and is not a geographical problem.
This brought the discussion to Dundas Street and the fear that it is an accident waiting to happen. There is increased pedestrian and car traffic along Dundas Street and although the city can label the area near the high school as a “community safety zone”, this was met with apprehension by many of the Councillors.

 

The John Boich Public School hadn't been built when this picture was taken - but it is very much a part of the community today.  Boich passed away almost two years ago. The intersection will be closed for the weekend of November 9/10

The traffic on Dundas is seen as an accident waiting to happen.  Is there a solution?  The candidates didn’t agree on one.

Speeding appears to be a common occurrence here. There was near consensus that a pedestrian walkway should be constructed to ensure safety for all residents crossing Dundas. They do not want a tragedy to affect change. However, at a cost of $1.2 million, this will not happen in the immediate future. Dundas is a Regional Road; decisions as to what gets done are made at the Regional level.

Bike lanes: everyone is in favour of having more, but what kind and how to pay for them? Do we want bike lanes for the serious commuter or for casual biking? Once that has been determined, how do you pay for them? That is the $2 million question. Lancaster said it would cost $2 million for a small section of road and that we should install the bike lanes when the roads are redone.

Bentivegna wanted additional studies before further action while the balance of the field wanted immediate action.

Sanghera suggested that corporate Burlington pitch in. He asked “why can’t Tim Horton’s, for example, sponsor a bike lane”? This was echoed by the others while Hlusko felt there could be efficiencies at city hall that could result in additional funds for bike lanes.

There was the obligatory discussion of the airpark fiasco with all candidates stressing that this will not be another Buttonville (more than just a recreational airport). None of the candidates would support further expansion. Lancaster suggested that the city hire an aviation consultant whose expertise would guide council with the potential problems that the airpark could present to the city. A rhetorical question by Sanghera “How did the first truckload happen?” received loud applause by the audience.

All candidates were disappointed with transit within ward six as development and transit routes do not appear to be in sync. “We tend to build first and the get transit to serve” said Warren. Lancaster added that the city is making progress in this area – looking at smaller buses. She added that ridership is up by 15%. This was disputed by Sanghera and Bentivegna.

 

Burlington Transit put their most festive bus into the parade.  The language doesn't matter - the message is still the same.

Transit was a debate question: How much and how does it get paid for?

“Transit is calculated by boards and not by ticket sales” said Bentivegna. One ticket sales could easily be two rides. All were concerned that seniors should get the transit that they deserve and with an aging population in ward six, transit should be upgraded to meet these needs by increasing the number of stops and by reducing fares for seniors.

How do we engage younger voters? – a question in any election. The use of social media such as twitter and Facebook was a most common reply while Dosanjh and Curran felt that parents have a certain responsibility in having their children be more politically aware.

The recent ice storm and flooding was covered with all candidates stressing that we need to be more prepared for these types of events and that our infrastructure needs to be upgraded.

Many topics were covered and many words spoken. Reading candidate literature gives one a certain perspective on the candidates and seeing them live in a debate forum adds an additional layer to the individual. They all seem to use the same buzzwords such as concern for seniors and our children but decisions should be done based on a multitude of facts and not emotion.

For example, concern for seniors is important, but we should remember that all seniors are not alike. As recently reported in Macleans magazine, today’s seniors are much more active and wealthier than previous generations. Before we start spending more money on transit for ward 6 seniors, we should totally understand the type of senior in this ward and how many would use increased and cheaper transit.

 

This is the part of the country side the environmentalists want to keep the highway makers away from.

This is the part of Burlington the environmentalists want to keep the highway makers away from.

The building of an additional highway through north Burlington was not discussed yet all candidates were concerned of our current traffic woes both within Burlington and throughout the GTA. All candidates want more employment within Burlington, but with all candidates not wanting to change our current urban and rural boundaries, we face either more dense housing within Burlington or additional traffic into the city.

With a population projection of 6.6 million by 2025 within the GTA how many of these would be travelling the QEW corridor and can we handle the traffic?

Lancaster-with-52-Spitfire

Councillor Lancaster got herself attached to the Air Park in a way that many north Burlington residents did not appreciate.

As the evening concluded, the panelists said that they were impressed with the quality of candidates for ward six. It would be great if we could take a piece of each candidate and have a super Councillor.

Angelo Bentivegna has done his homework but was proposing too many meetings and consultations. Jim Curran seemed to lack a certain dynamism when addressing the audience. Pardeep Dosanjh showed deep support for seniors and children, but did not have a strong platform for all the other issues. Jennifer Hlusko has the political background as a trustee and has a sound knowledge of how government operates. Blair Lancaster, the incumbent, has experience on her side. The main problem here is was she responsive enough to her constituents and can she improve on this in the future.

Jivan Sanghera was a pleasant surprise as he had a strong presence and offered some unique solutions to the needs of ward six. However, name recognition is low within the ward.

Vanessa Warren entered the race initially because of the airpark situation and presents herself well in a public forum. The main question is will she be able to give equal time to the rest of the ward.

Nine people wanting to replace the incumbent was a political message of its own. 

Walter Byj is a frequent contributor to the GazetteByj Walter  H&S

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11 comments to Ward six residents take part in a debate – was there a winner? There is certainly a choice.

  • Jeff

    I agree with reducing the speed. But isn’t the speed already reduced to 60? The regular speed at Corp Christi is 60 k/ hr. The speed at Dundas is 80 km/ hr. How would it be possible for people to slow down to 40km/hr when they don’t even slow down to 60km/ hr?

    I think the candidates are talking about some sort of solution because people ARE concerned about it. It’s not ONLY high school students that cross. Many young children cross with their mothers as well. I’ve also driven in the am and pm…and I don’t only see high school students crossing.

    Back when all of this was discussed, there was no concern only because there was no concern. The Alton community was still growing. On any given day, there are many young children at the park.

    Speaking with MY neighbors and friends that travel on Dundas AND that live in Alton are definitely concerned. Parents of teenagers and parents of young children are all concerned.

    The issue is simply acknowledging the fact that Dundas is busier than it used to be. This realization does impact one that walks and crosses the street than rather drives by the street. The point is to prevent from anything from happening. It would be a shame if a child were to get hurt, and that’s when it would be decided that something needs to be done.

    It’s not about paying attention to our kids and holding their hand while they cross the road. OBVIOUSLY every parent does this. Heck, parents do this while getting to their car in a parking lot. It’s about the drivers. Yes some drivers follow the rules. But a lot of people that are driving on Dundas, and if it’s a green light, they continue going at 80km/ hr.

    The Alton community is a thriving community with young families. When the weather outside is snowy and slush, cars will slide, people will trip.

    Overall Neil, I think you have good ideas. How come you’re not a candidate?

  • mike

    As a voter I am a little confused, could someone please tell me when we see a pardep dosangh sign on someones lawn why is it we see a jivan sanghera lawn sign also. Are these guys teaming up or is this a ethnic war between both of them. Looks like they have lost touch about what these elections are all about. Somebody please explain.

  • Tony Pullin

    “Jeff” had a rebuttal comment that seems to have vanished. ??

    Editor’s note: Jeff appears to be abusing the comments section with content that is libelous and far too one-sided to be anywhere near fair. We have deleted everything Jeff posted.
    We were unable to reach Jeff at the email he used.
    His consistent smearing of Sanghera suggests he is an agent for someone else.

  • Neil

    Im not sure who i am going to vote for either, I strongly believe it is between Warren and Lancaster.

    This whole discussion about traffic on Dundas and students crossing a busy street. The planning of this high school and community centre was up for debate years ago and discussion of widening Dundas was too, and obviously it passed without much push back from residents, but now some candidates are promising a bridge over Dundas because of speeders and that it is going to be a 6 lane road – one day.

    I have emailed and had a few enlightened discussions with a couple of candidates and i will not support a candidate that wants to spend money on a pedestrian bridge that is going to cost ALL of us in the long run and probably will increase our taxes – maintenance, repairs etc. A pedestrian bridge over the CN tracks in the south was a hot issue, that many will not forget how much it cost to be repaired and the amount of money it will cost us all to repair again in the next 10 years all for 35 trips a day! Even a school trustee candidate wants it to be a discussion between all levels of government including school board – taking money from classrooms possible?

    Travelling past Hayden daily in both Am and Pm, there are no issues. Speaking with other neighbours and friends that use Dundas daily have even said that the students travel in big groups when they cross the street, there is no need for a bridge! – WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS!

    If the kids can get to the skate park or into Alton or Millcroft after, before, during school or on weekends and cross the road using the cross walks provided, then really what is the issue? SPEEDING? A bridge will not solve that problem? – reduce the speed to 40 km/h during school hours like they do for Corp. Christi on Upper Middle and other High schools in the area. We have HRPS to combat this, they take up a huge chunk of tax dollars – get them out there daily and start ticketing!

    If candidates or parents today think that they (high school students) can’t cross the street, then maybe they need to spend some extra attention to their kids hold their hands when crossing the street and not put the burden on all tax payers.

    A bridge is not needed.

    Soon the City of Burlington won’t be know as the “City of street lights, speed humps/bumps” but we will be known as the “City of Bridges” every time someone cries “bridge”.

    What the candidates should be focusing on is: balancing a budget, keeping taxes low, seeing where the waste is, improving City Hall staffing, improving transit; where are the shelters, benches? Get a bus along Dundas (don’t wait for the Region or Metrolinx) to connect with Oakville and Hamilton, getting the empty pockets of land that have yet to be developed; developed before more subdivisions or new construction is permitted, look at the commercial zones north of Dundas and really take a look at the empty buildings and question, is more(commercial) really needed? Where is our tree Canopy (forests), public spaces and our trails? and since your worried about traffic, I would keep your eye out on the plan to move the court house to North Burlington – Just imagine all the traffic on Appleby, Walkers and Guelph line – what its like today and what it will be like when its complete!

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  • Melissa – Miss I did not knock on your door, so I’m not sure what you are referencing. If you want to get to know more about me, and because I respect your time and privacy I will be posting a youtube video about me, and what I’m hoping to do for the city.

  • Hi Jeff and Melissa
    – I don’t think we’ve had the pleasure of meeting and my guess is that you were not at the debate. My comment about Tim Hortons and a Bike lane is being analyzed out of context. My point in the statement was that corporate partners are happy to build the good will associated with sponsoring local events and infrastructure projects. They just need to understand the good it can bring. I was not implying that Tim Hortons go build us some bike lanes. What I was trying to say is that corporate partnerships are a way to raise funds without burdening the tax payer. I appreciate your opinion and respect how busy you are.

  • melissa

    I love in Alton village yesterday I had 4 candidates knock on my door, please stop coming to my door, don’t you guys understand some people have kids they work 2 jobs, I only get 1 day off and I have these people like Angelo and jivan who don’t shut up. Then you have padeep asking can I put a sign up, how about you talk about your plarform even though she has put them on municipal property everywhere in Alton Village. I read the comment above about Jivan and the sponsored bike lanes….Jivan your not ready to be councillor….think before you speak.

  • Jeff

    Jivan Sangera stated if Tim Hortons can have free kids skate why cant they sponsor a bike lane. Are you serious jivan get your numbers straight before you speak. Lets see a free skate is probably at most $700/day. A Bike lane, after traffic studies, after council meetings, after proposals and then construction would probably cost $1 Million dollars plus. Why would an organization spend that type of money for a bike lane, they could probably open up 10 stores in gas stations. What a ridiculous idea.

  • Kurt

    You mention the long list of accomplishments by Blair Lancaster. I counted 30 on her handout. The accomplishments listed are for the whole council, not just one. It is really galling to see her taking credit for “Won the right to control the fill at the Airpark”. The two councillors who fought hardest and showed the most interest were John Taylor and Marianne Meed Ward. What exaggerations!

  • Stacie Dunlop

    Respectfully, we must have been at different debates. I was there with two other people and ALL THREE of agree that the only one who said they wanted a pedestrian walkway (think Drury lane bridge) was lancaster. The others DID talk about pedestrian safety, but didn’t go as far as to suggest building such a monstrosity!
    Please fact check this!

  • Scott Williams

    Overall my mind didn’t change…doesn’t really matter which person you choose all politicians are the same.